{"id":653,"date":"2009-01-21T06:22:37","date_gmt":"2009-01-21T11:22:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/?p=653"},"modified":"2024-04-26T08:54:21","modified_gmt":"2024-04-26T12:54:21","slug":"troll-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/?p=653","title":{"rendered":"Troll 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-1041\" title=\"troll2\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/troll2-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"troll2\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/troll2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/troll2.jpg 320w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>Here&#8217;s the idea behind &#8220;An American, a Canadian, and an Elitist&#8221;: Rhett&#8217;s favorite movie is &#8220;Meatballs 4&#8221;, Josh likes <\/em><em>Hollywood<\/em><em> pap, and Adam is a prick who hates everything. We all watch far too many movies, and spend our time analyzing them. So we each watch the same movie, write our analysis of them, and then go to a chat room to discuss it, unaware of what the others have written. <strong>A warning: if you haven&#8217;t seen the film we are discussing, it may not be best to read this article, because it is spoiler heavy.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000021.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7099\" title=\"toliveanddieinla00002\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000021-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000021-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000021.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Rhett Miller&#8217;s analysis.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Troll 2<\/em> is a socially significant pontification on a highly relevant contemporary issue. It addresses, like few films before it, the perils of eating disorders, and at the same time advocates a return to a vegetarian life in touch with the earth. It is with its bold allegory to trolls and to surrealism that the film addresses anorexia with a depth mostly unexplored in contemporary film. Made as the hedonistic 80s were reaching their apex, the film addresses our adulation with movie stars and on bodily perfection. It comes out of a time when John Travolta waxed his chest, and when workout gyms were all the rage. With physical appearance such an obsession in the 1980s (and still very much today), many people would thus feel pressured to severely alter eating habits in order to shape themselves into the stars they idolize. Out of this breeds anorexia.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000011.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7105\" title=\"toliveanddieinla00001\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000011-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000011-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000011.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>The film sets up our idolization with celebrity with its first few shots, one of Darryl Strawberry (who had consumption problems of his own) on a pennant in Joshua&#8217;s room, and then another of Johnny Depp in Holly&#8217;s workout pad. It is out of these two people that the kids attempt to model themselves under. In a further attempt to mold her body to perfection, Holly is seen sweating during a weight lifting exercise. It is significant that Holly and Josh are never willingly eating throughout the film, Josh is forced to eat a bologna sandwich, but it is against his will. Whether the film be poisoned by goblins or out of the supermarket, a rampant fear of food consumption drives these children in an age where the human book could be judged only by the luster of its cover.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000041.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7100\" title=\"toliveanddieinla00004\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000041-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000041-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000041.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>The trolls in <em>Troll 2<\/em>, actually goblins, offer the children a healthier alternative. The goblins are vegetarians, and advocate of a return to the earth, promoting the consumption of natural foods like corn and dairy. It is typical that only the children rebel against such a lifestyle, since the stigma of finishing one&#8217;s brussel sprouts still dogs the youth today. Since the trolls are visibly ugly, the children immediately assume that they are evil, since this is a generation raised on appreciating externalities rather than the strength of one&#8217;s character. The climax, where Josh forcefully bites into an unhealthy bologna sandwich and destroys the goblin population is particularly saddening. The goblins scream &#8220;think about the cholesterol!&#8221; as they perish away. It becomes clear that despite their horrid exterior, deep down they wish to purify these children. They are not the villains, our culture is to blame for our vapid obsession with looks and being skinny. The goblins sadly serve as scapegoats for a problem that the children choose to ignore.<\/p>\n<p>It is with a great comeuppance that at the end the goblins get the last laugh, as they return to advocate the consumption of a healthier organic product. They offer Joshua&#8217;s mother as a sacrifice for his negligence to eat, because figuratively Josh destroyed his mother by thrusting his eating disorder upon her. Anorexia is not limited to the individual, it is a group process that can often tear apart the seams of a family. So despite a momentary return to normalcy when Josh eats the bologna sandwich, it is an ideal that cannot be sustained, since it is inevitable that he will fall back into the hands of disorder. The goblins offer the organic slime to Josh in a bid of goodwill to try and coax him back into eating, but of course he refuses. The fact that the film ends on Josh&#8217;s scream of horror speaks plenty about our society. Josh refuses not only to eat in the healthier manner that the goblins advocate, but he also denies himself the pleasure of food in general. In order to shape himself into the poster-boy goodness of Johnny Depp, he denies his innards the nutrients he required.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-656\" title=\"32234\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/32234.jpg\" alt=\"32234\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/>The goblins may be hideous to look at, but inside they are complete. Josh, and all of his contemporaries in the film however, suffer the slings of anorexia, sacrificing their mind for their body. The goblins&#8217; return to demonstrate that anorexia is a problem that refuses to go away with today&#8217;s youth. As much as one might sweep it under the rug, it is a problem that paradoxically consumes those who deny themselves the gratification of consumption. It destroys families, lives and societies, and in an age where Britney and Christina show off their starving bodies the messages of <em>Troll 2<\/em> become all the more relevant. This may just be the most important film of the last 25 years.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla00016.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7109\" title=\"toliveanddieinla00016\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla00016-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla00016-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla00016.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Josh Clarke&#8217;s analysis.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nilbog is goblin spelled backwards. This is the height of cleverness that <em>Troll 2<\/em> rises to. Of course they couldn&#8217;t let the audience relish this fact, they had to beat them senseless with it. &#8220;This is their kingdom!&#8221; the young hero announces proceeds to tell every single character in the film. Needless to say the level of intelligence required for this movie barely surfaces that of a mental midget, which makes me wonder whether this was intended as a kid&#8217;s movie.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-658\" title=\"435435\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/435435.jpg\" alt=\"435435\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/>Well known among the film viewing community as one of the worst movies ever made, one can contend that the targeted demographic is barely out of their Underoos. Yet the infrequent strong language and adult situations would argue otherwise. So a question arises: What the fuck were they thinking when they made this movie!? A quick scan on the IMDb of the filmmakers and their careers confirms these guys are veterans. They weren&#8217;t the writers of <em>Apocalypse Now<\/em> of course, but they had experience in filmmaking, experience that should have given them some idea of how to make a decent movie. And yet they were given a budget and distribution for a script that was the product of generations of inbreeding. It&#8217;s times like this that I don&#8217;t worry for my career as a filmmaker, and alternately piss my pants in fear.<\/p>\n<p>Still, I remember viewing this movie as a child, and despite having subsequently forgotten I had viewed it (amnesia brought on by trauma?), I can honestly say there were things about this film that disturbed me. The popcorn scene was just so out there that I felt uncomfortable, and the idea of being incapacitated after turning into a human-plant hybrid is a bit unsettling. But the most wince-inducing part was the ending. There&#8217;s just something about a person calling out &#8220;Mommy&#8221; that upsets me. Maybe it&#8217;s due to my own close relationship with my mother, and the thought of losing her being unbearable. Maybe it&#8217;s seeing a young, innocent person crying out for matriarchal protection that causes me to flinch. Either way, for a movie as innocuous and laughable as <em>Troll 2<\/em>, its ending was unwelcomingly dark and pessimistic.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000151.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7107\" title=\"toliveanddieinla00015\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000151-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000151-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000151.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Don&#8217;t misunderstand me though. Other than the unintentional laughs, the reactions <em>Troll 2<\/em> caused in me were nothing more than the raising of an eyebrow. Much has been written about films that are so bad they&#8217;re good, so I&#8217;ll save you all from rereading what has already been written. Suffice to say this film caused me to laugh, out loud, and occasionally hysterically. It&#8217;s a beer and pizza movie that you watch with your friends. I&#8217;d like to say I didn&#8217;t go out of my way to view this film, because I trekked through half of Philadelphia in search of, and to no avail. The Rhettster had to encode and send it to me via the Internet. I&#8217;d suggest doing similar.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/234123435.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-660\" title=\"234123435\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/234123435.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a>Adam Lippe&#8217;s analysis.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Oh my god, what&#8217;s happening to her? And why can&#8217;t I move? There must be a logical explanation for all of this!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Deciphering the meaning of <em>Troll 2<\/em> is like trying to get a prostitute to give you a freebie, it&#8217;s an impossible task and you might get herpes. Seemingly beginning in the middle of a sentence, the movie defies explanation, but I have a hard time believing that there wasn&#8217;t an ulterior motive to the making of it. The music of the opening &#8220;chase&#8221; is like video game music mixed with an episode of <em>Hunter<\/em>. But in a true utopia, every episode of <em>Hunter<\/em> would be as enlightening as <em>Troll 2<\/em>. There is a statement being made here, about inept parenting, bizarre rituals of travel (have you ever heard of a family randomly moving to the country to switch places with another family who moves into their home? Is this the new version of wife swapping?) and how sweets are bad for you.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000051.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7101\" title=\"toliveanddieinla00005\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000051-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000051-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000051.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>This movie is so cruel, that the mother, as she reads off of cue cards, tells her son that he&#8217;s not allowed to remember his grandfather, and that he must &#8220;banish&#8221; him from his mind. She is one of the more intimidating figures in all of filmdom, it&#8217;s a shame she never acted in anything afterward. She has those terrifying eyes reminiscent of Meg Foster in <em>They Live<\/em>, where they almost seem a separate being, glowing and controlling your mind. She&#8217;s certainly more terrifying than anything else in the movie. Sure, she&#8217;s a stiff actress, but no worse than the scene between Holly and Elliot when he sneaks into her room. Especially the line where Holly gives him an ultimatum, either her or his friends. &#8220;I&#8217;m going now; And I&#8217;ll tell them.&#8221; This scene suggests what I was thinking throughout the film. These actors do not speak English. They have learned it phonetically, but cannot communicate in the language unless they are fed lines. It&#8217;s the only explanation as to why in nearly every scene, all of them put the wrong emphasis on words in a sentence. That Joe D&#8217;Amato was involved in the film, means only that there was an Italian and schlock influence, not the movie was filmed in Italy.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-661 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0pt none;\" title=\"234234\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/234234.jpg\" alt=\"234234\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" border=\"0\" \/><em>Troll 2<\/em> was also clearly the influence on a lot of different sources. Those Gatorade commercials where people sweat different colors was obviously inspired by <em>Troll 2<\/em>. When they are at their new home, and Joshua sees Grandpa Seth in the mirror, he says, &#8220;This is a bad place, Joshua. It even gives me the creeps.&#8221; &#8220;Tell me more, Grandpa.&#8221; This is clearly what motivated Paul Verhoeven to put those Would You Like to Know More? sequences in <em>Starship Troopers<\/em>. When Elliot&#8217;s friend goes shopping in his pink daisy dukes, yellow shirt and head band, are we supposed to believe that he&#8217;s looking for free and unattached girls? Clearly, this signals the beginning of accepted homosexuality, though the young man obviously feels that he will be judged if he comes out, but his friends do not bother him in the matter. The message of the film on the surface is that it&#8217;s only the power of goodness that can defeat the goblins. But what exactly is the power of goodness? I think it&#8217;s clear that in the same way that <em>Battlefield Earth<\/em> was considered a scientology film, <em>Troll 2<\/em> should be thought of as an Atkins diet ad. How does Joshua defeat the goblins? He eats a bologna sandwich. Not just a regular bologna sandwich, but a double decker bologna sandwich. The goblins are trying to force their vegetarianism on everyone, the preacher talks extensively about the evils of meat, and they even use corn to try to kill someone. It also shows what hypocrites those vegetarians are. The corn is the only vegetable seen in the entire film, everything else is either spoiled milk or cake. And the goblins plan to eat their human captives, whom they&#8217;ve turned into plants. But they are still eating flesh, and so even then, meat can&#8217;t be avoided And with all that sugar, shouldn&#8217;t they be worrying about diabetes and not cholesterol? Even though this film claims it was made in 1990, I doubt that, it bears the mark of something much earlier. So I suggest that it also had an influence on <em>Saved By the Bell<\/em>, as evidenced by Grandpa Seth&#8217;s magic powers which allow him to freeze time for thirty seconds, similar to Zack Morris. When Holly has her little epileptic fit in front of the mirror and gives her &#8220;speech&#8221; about dropping her boyfriend, it clearly shows the negative effects of <em>Flashdance<\/em> on society.<\/p>\n<p>Though Seth and the father, Michael, are not related by blood, it seems they have the same notions about men, as Seth refers to Michael as a good-for-nothing, as Michael says the same about Elliott.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000101.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7102\" title=\"toliveanddieinla00010\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000101-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000101-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000101.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Laura &#8220;Emmanuelle&#8221; Gemser did the &#8220;costumes,&#8221; because of her relationship with D&#8217;Amato, and it&#8217;s clear that she got her design degree in paper mache. There were a number of other things about <em>Troll 2<\/em> that I didn&#8217;t understand or realize. The scene where Joshua has to use his skateboard to warn people, because his dad is unwakeable from his slumber. His dad is reading a book on vegetables, and it manages to put him out within seconds. Are legumes the new valium? In the scene where the kids are forced to drink the broth, personally, I had no idea that you could put a whole fog machine in a mug. When the preacher is burning, the stuntman is even less convincing than the one in <em>Plan 9 From Outer Space<\/em>, but how about those sound effects of him screaming? Isn&#8217;t the Stonehenge magic stone kind of redundant? The cop&#8217;s name is Gene Freak?<\/p>\n<p>And remember&#8230; &#8220;Goblins still exist!&#8221;<\/p>\n<table class=\"MsoNormalTable\" style=\"width: 150pt;\" border=\"0\" width=\"200\" cellspacing=\"10\" cellpadding=\"0\" align=\"left\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"padding: 0in;\"><!-- [if gte vml 1]><v:shape id=\"_x0000_i1030\" type=\"#_x0000_t75\" alt=\"24352435\" style='width:200.25pt; height:150pt'> <v:imagedata src=\"file:\/\/\/C:\\DOCUME~1\\Adam\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\msohtml1\\01\\clip_image006.jpg\" mce_src=\"file:\/\/\/C:\\DOCUME~1\\Adam\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\msohtml1\\01\\clip_image006.jpg\" o:href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/24352435.jpg\" \/> <\/v:shape><![endif]--><!-- [if !vml]--><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-662 alignleft\" style=\"border: 0pt none;\" title=\"24352435\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/24352435.jpg\" alt=\"24352435\" width=\"267\" height=\"200\" border=\"0\" \/><!--[endif]--><a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20040717105532\/http:\/www.wehateyouandyourhorrendoustasteineverything.com\/cinema\/images\/troll2big_6.jpg\" target=\"new\"><br \/>\n<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><strong>The chat.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rhett<\/strong> We should all be listening to the <em>Troll 2<\/em> theme right now to get in the mood.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> I like the song they sing when they have the party.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong>&#8230; an unsigned band called Epsilon Zero.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> la la la la la la la la\u00a0\u00a0 &#8230;Something like that.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> I can&#8217;t remember that.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> What we should be listening to is that song the mother loves so much! I&#8217;ll start&#8230; row row row your boat<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> out of sync.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> row row<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> row<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> ROW<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> gently down the stream<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> row<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> gently<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Ok, enough of that.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> row<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> YOU DON&#8217;T PISS ON HOSPITALITY!<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> the stream<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> Alright, is that pissing scene not one of the best moments in bad movie history?<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Is that seriously the only way to prevent someone from eating?<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Universally effective.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> I guess I&#8217;d stop&#8230;<br \/>\n<strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-664\" title=\"456546\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/456546.jpg\" alt=\"456546\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/>Rhett<\/strong> Although we learned in <em>Waterworld<\/em> that it is okay to drink urine<strong>, <\/strong>Josh, at least once.\u00a0 So technically they still could have eaten it.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> It&#8217;s a necessity, anyway.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Well would you drink someone else&#8217;s urine or your own? There&#8217;s a difference.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> And I love how all the goblin food is green.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Since I bet we all had a difficult time taking our analysis seriously, I had a question. Was this movie anti-vegetable?<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> You&#8217;d think they&#8217;d be a little more nondescript about it.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Well yeah man, this movie obviously has an anti-vegetarian allegorical slant.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> That was how I read it.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> Actually, I would argue the other way.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> THINK OF ALL THE CHOLESTEROL!<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> It was an Atkins diet propaganda movie. Bologna sandwich saves the world.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> I think it was anti-semetic, Mel Gibson&#8217;s father would back me up on that one.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> Clearly thinking from a survival standpoint, the goblins would be the ones to prevail, since they choose a healthier diet.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Not only was the food green, but all they ate was candy. One vegetable in the whole movie, that was the corn.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Yeah, but think of it this way.\u00a0 Goblins = bad\u00a0\u00a0 Humans = good\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Goblins eat vegetables.\u00a0\u00a0 Humans eat&#8230; well, meat. Therefore, if a=b and b=c<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Only the power of meat can defeat the goblins. And obviously, all those vegetables make the goblins horny. &#8220;They&#8217;re eating my mom!&#8221;<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> Goblins are more in touch with the natural world though. We are more into the synthetic, and it is destroying us. The goblins offer a return to the earth, literally by transforming those who have gone fowl by eating cholesterol, into trees.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> The humans they&#8217;re turning into plants, aren&#8217;t still going to be meat? They may have branches for legs, but I distinctly saw flesh.<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-665\" title=\"345435\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/345435.jpg\" alt=\"345435\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/><strong>Josh<\/strong> That nerd wasn&#8217;t completely wooden when they pureed him.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> Given more time, I am sure he would have gotten a woody.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Bad Rhett. Bad.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> I liked how when the goblins were eating, you could see the actors behind the masks mouth&#8217;s moving, but not the mouths of the masks at all.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> I love how the eyes were just fixed straight ahead. Or in the case of the Marty Feldman goblin, all over the place.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> The best double standard line though was when the grandfather said: &#8220;touch it, Joshua, only touch it!&#8221;<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Well all of the familial stuff was so creepy. The mother, who is the most frightening person in the whole movie, was telling Joshua to banish the memory of his grandfather.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> I also like the homosexual undertones.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> The film seems to advocate a neo-homosexuality, induced by getting punched in the beanbag.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> And who knew that getting kneed in the nuts makes you a f**?<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> And wearing really short shorts and a headband.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> And the two guys in bed together half naked.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> The grandfather clearly has to symbolize a child molester&#8230; And the fact that they are forcing all these guys to drink a white creamy substance.<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-666\" title=\"456234\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/456234.jpg\" alt=\"456234\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/><strong>Adam<\/strong> It&#8217;s probably not an accident that the kids see him in the mirror, as they see themselves in him. Future child molesters.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> I think we&#8217;re looking far too much into this movie.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> Definitely not. I mean, the food thing is definitely there.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Oh yeah, the food, I see.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> The homosexuality is too.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> But come on, the grandfather is a sick freak. Always telling people to deny his existence, telling the kid to touch it and convincing him to whip it out.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> You know there were points I actually was surprised; Near the beginning when you realize the grandfather is dead, and later on when the boy is stabbed through the stomach with a tree branch.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> And the grandfather keeps telling Joshua that it will be the last time he can see him, and yet he shows up over and over anyway, destroying his hope with all those filthy lies.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> And why can&#8217;t the grandfather tell it is not Joshua in that room when he talks to Holly? He can stop time, yet for this one instance he cannot see?<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Because he is mesmerized by her dancing&#8230;Or epileptic fit.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> I know I was.<br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000091.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7104\" title=\"toliveanddieinla00009\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000091-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000091-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000091.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Josh<\/strong> How was your 80&#8217;s boner on that one Rhett?<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> The part I laughed the most at, is when Holly just goes to her boyfriend and punches him out.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Yes, that was brilliantly random.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> Not provoked at all. He hadn&#8217;t even seen her.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> As if that would be a convincing reason to stop seeing his friends.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> His friends weren&#8217;t really that cool anyway.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> &#8220;Wait, I don&#8217;t understand.&#8221;<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> Well, she does work out, you know.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> No, she has seizures. Grandpa Seth is always waiting around just in case, carrying around a wooden spoon.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Is it wrong that I found the women in this movie hot?<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> No, I would definitely harpoon Holly.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> I think he meant during the popcorn scene.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> I liked the Elvira chick when she wasn&#8217;t so goth.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> And the priest looked like a mix between Kane Hodder and Billy Ray Cyrus<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Well there goes my hard on. Thanks Rhett&#8230; So, is the popcorn victim dead? Or is he there to this day laying under a pile of Act II?<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Yeah, that&#8217;s totally not clear.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> I love how the popcorn clearly comes from off-screen, rather than from the actual corn.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> It&#8217;s like every crew member is just throwing bags of the shit.<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-667\" title=\"3658375\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/3658375.jpg\" alt=\"3658375\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/><strong>Adam<\/strong> All two crew members.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Well obviously they hid that in editing.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> And the kid also says, &#8220;Grandpa Seth, please cum!&#8221; Which I found again to tap into the molester theme.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> I know when I go to Europe again, I want to visit the Stonehenge Magic Stone.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Adam, just make sure to pack plenty of Oscar Meyer.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> And perhaps bring along Gene Freak, just to laugh at odd moments.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Oh man, I didn&#8217;t stop laughing at that for &#8230; well about 30 seconds. But it was really funny for that half minute.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> He can properly determine which girls were free and unattached, and which weren&#8217;t.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> We also get homoerotic subtext with the corn.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Was the corn going to end up in the kid&#8217;s ass?<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> How the boy takes it in his mouth like a phallus and then at the peak of excitement it bursts out with corn. The troll also sticks the one guy with a spear.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> In the shoulder.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> Still, it is a phallic object entering his body.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Well I learned from <em>House of the Dead<\/em> that you can kill people if you attack their shoulder only.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> The milk is chunky&#8230; How does that fit into your theory, Rhett?<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Where does the milk come from, exactly, as I saw no farm animals?<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-668\" title=\"756345\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/756345.jpg\" alt=\"756345\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/><strong>Josh<\/strong> Well according to the father, farmers sleep during the day.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> The film advocates that we swallow semen, rather than spit.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Hmm&#8230; Endless semen&#8230;.And the father does heavily resemble Peter North.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Maybe a cross between Peter North and Barry Bostwick.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> And Paul Verhoeven.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> And the dad in <em>Near Dark<\/em>.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> I have a question. Has anyone ever tightened their belt buckle to avoid hunger pains?<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> I like how the next morning, the father and Joshua are all chummy. Despite the fact that he just pissed all over last night&#8217;s dinner.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> I was waiting for the &#8220;who pissed in your cornflakes&#8221; line to come up.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> And then when they go into town, apparently that book on vegetables he&#8217;s reading is so fascinating, that he falls asleep instantaneously, and Joshua can&#8217;t wake him up.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> What do we make of the symbolic title of Nilbog?<br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000122.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7103\" title=\"toliveanddieinla00012\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000122-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000122-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/toliveanddieinla000122.jpg 853w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Josh<\/strong> I think Nilbog is goblin spelled backwards. But I&#8217;d have to look it up&#8230; Not that I got that from the 400 fucking times they said it throughout the movie.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> I still do not understand why anyone would name their town Nilbog. Like would a human ever name their town Namuh!!!<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> I&#8217;d like to be able to look it up, but I can&#8217;t move. I can&#8217;t move. There must be some sort of rational explanation for all of this.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Yeah, seriously&#8230;. you think the goblins would be a little more creative, like New Stonehenge or something.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> Yeah, Nilbog, the green slime, the hideous visage&#8230;They aren&#8217;t really concealing much.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> And when they don&#8217;t have visitors, do they eat each other?<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> That&#8217;s another thing, who the fuck would want to go there for a vacation?<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> And how can I go about a city\/farm exchange? Despite the fact that I know nothing about farming.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> And why would you want a bunch of country bumpkins getting their inbred genes all over your shit?<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Well when you have all the major conveniences, you can obviously afford to replace them. You know, video, microwave, non-wooden dildo.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> If you can afford to replace them, can&#8217;t you afford to vacation in fucking Florida?<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> And why are they goblins and not trolls?<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Rhett, that&#8217;s obviously a question we are not qualified to answer?<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> <em>Hobgoblins 2<\/em> would have been a more fitting title. They could have ranked side by side on the IMDB worst list.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Right, if you&#8217;re going to write a non-related sequel to a shitty movie, why not at least try for namesake?<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Which came out first?<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> <em>Hobgoblins<\/em> was in &#8217;87.<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-669\" title=\"43523443\" src=\"http:\/\/www.regrettablesincerity.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/43523443.jpg\" alt=\"43523443\" width=\"200\" height=\"150\" \/><strong>Rhett<\/strong> I love how the father just automatically blames Holly&#8217;s sighting of her grandfather on dope.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> If I can say one thing about this movie, it was actually shot competently.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> I honestly liked <em>Troll 2<\/em>.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> I couldn&#8217;t say that.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> I didn&#8217;t say it was shot well.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> But the DVD transfer was way too good for it.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> I&#8217;m just saying there weren&#8217;t glaring cinematography mistakes.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> Apart from everything that appeared in front of the camera.<br \/>\n<strong>Rhett<\/strong> I thought the opening montage was awesome.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Yeah, I actually felt the opening was somewhat atmospheric.<br \/>\n<strong>Adam<\/strong> I loved the music of the opening scene. And how the movie begins completely in the middle of a thought.<br \/>\n<strong>Josh<\/strong> Well Adam, that&#8217;s what happens when you film a botched SS experiment.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s the idea behind &#8220;An American, a Canadian, and an Elitist&#8221;: Rhett&#8217;s favorite movie is &#8220;Meatballs 4&#8221;, Josh likes Hollywood pap, and Adam is a prick who hates everything. We all watch far too many movies, and spend our time analyzing them. 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